Film Publication Board (FPB) and gaming in SA

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hi guys.

As you probably know, the FPB has published draft legislation concerning CENSORSHIP OF SOCIAL MEDIA etc. in SA. There is quite an uproar at the moment from media houses and news content providers - the FPB is essentially saying that ALL media content, including posts to social media like Facebook etc. will first have to be classified/reviewed by them, before anything can be published, and that a fee will be payable to the FPB before any video or other content can be approved for publication. What this amounts to is a whole lot of BS.... it's censorship and nothing more.

"According to The Right2Know, the Film and Publications Board’s (FPB) has proposed to censor the internet in South Africa. According to the group, the FPB wants broadly defined powers to police all content published on the Internet. This will include blogs, personal websites, and Facebook pages."

"The draft document states that: “Any person who intends to distribute any film, game, or certain publication in the Republic of South Africa shall first comply with section 18(1) of the [1996 Films and Publications] Act by applying, in the prescribed manner, for registration as film or game and publications distributor.” It is clear from this statement that the new regulations apply to an absurdly broad range of content that is not limited to that which is published online. It also suggests that the target of this regulation is not just major distributors but also individuals. In terms of the wording of the document, everything published on the Internet – including blogs, personal websites and Facebook pages – could be subjected to classification from the FPB.”

“According to the document, anyone wishing to publish or distribute content will have to first apply for a digital publisher’s online distribution agreement with the FPB, which will require a subscription fee. Once paid, the publisher would have to submit the content to the FPB for classification prior to publishing. This effectively is a specific form of pre-publication censorship, which is not acceptable.”

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2015/03/fpb-proposes-to-censor-the-internet-in-south-africa/

This concerns the gaming industry in SA as well, and could be especially troublesome for indie developers.

What do you guys think about this? Anyone have experience dealing with the FPB to get a game published?

Comments

  • We were aware of it in April 2014 and it was raised again in December 2014.

    The problem is:
    What we could do is challenge the policy on administrative or constitutional grounds, but someone is going to need to bankroll that. 
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    "someone is going to need to bankroll that" is not very useful by itself. Some kind of estimate of how much money we're talking about might be better. Then at least the conversation can move towards "how?"
  • a Constitutional battle will normally cost in the region between R5 million to R10 million. The Freedom of Expression institute would be a good amicus (friend of the court, meaning the also submit arguments) but it is unlikely they would actually fight the case. For now the best bet would be to get a corporate like Microsoft or Naspers to do the fighting, alternatively one could apply to the new shuttleworth trust that was setup to fight constitutional battles
  • Yoiks. I'll check between my couch cushions.
  • I'm sure there will be a battle started by some corporate. I guess we just need to be another voice in there when it starts, unless @rustybroomhandle has deep couch pockets :D
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    Problem with corporates is that it takes 0 effort for them to just comply with the legislation. It's the little guys that get most negatively impacted by this nonsense.
  • Problem with corporates is that it takes 0 effort for them to just comply with the legislation. It's the little guys that get most negatively impacted by this nonsense.
    True. And the game industry in this country is so small I don't think our voice will even be heard.
  • vintar said:
    Problem with corporates is that it takes 0 effort for them to just comply with the legislation. It's the little guys that get most negatively impacted by this nonsense.
    True. And the game industry in this country is so small I don't think our voice will even be heard.
    Actually, individuals would just stop making content. The corporates are the ones who would be most inconvenienced. This legislation would greatly impact several major industries within South Africa, most notably the news organisations. Having to wait for a stamp of approval before you can upload a youtube video of the day's happenings would be disastrous, and I imagine you'd have to wait quite a long while because of the massive backlog that would inevitably form. The long wait would be terrible for pretty much any company that produces content, so you can bet there will be at least a few companies that would want this to go away.

  • Having to wait for a stamp of approval before you can upload a youtube video
    As I understand it, this is not how it works. If you publish said video through/as a registered distributor, you're fine.

    The main issue I see with that though is that the government can still have videos taken down after the fact if they disagree with the contents.
  • The main issue I see with that though is that the government can still have videos taken down after the fact if they disagree with the contents.
    That would upset people, for sure... but that would basically be the same as it is now, just with the government having a say in addition to the owners of the sites. However, that's not what the problem here is.

    "According to the document, anyone wishing to publish or distribute content will have to first apply for a digital publisher’s online distribution agreement with the FPB, which will require a subscription fee. Once paid, the publisher would have to submit the content to the FPB for classification prior to publishing. This effectively is a specific form of pre-publication censorship, which is not acceptable.”

    Every single bit of content would need to be pre-approved before it is made available for public consumption, and furthermore, you'd need to be registered and pay a licence fee in order to get your content approved in the first place.


  • Actually, individuals would just stop making content. The corporates are the ones who would be most inconvenienced. This legislation would greatly impact several major industries within South Africa, most notably the news organisations. Having to wait for a stamp of approval before you can upload a youtube video of the day's happenings would be disastrous, and I imagine you'd have to wait quite a long while because of the massive backlog that would inevitably form. The long wait would be terrible for pretty much any company that produces content, so you can bet there will be at least a few companies that would want this to go away.

    I imagine this is exactly the point. The government is trying to control the news outlets.
  • I was wondering, how would the FPB go about policing this? I know nothing about the proposed law, so I'm just wondering if this will actually be something they can manage. It sound to me like the law that people are not allowed to smoke in vehicles that have children on board, but you see this everyday on the streets and highways. Also, how will they be able to prove that something posted on facebook/youtube was actually done in South Africa? The FPB are unable to even effectively stop pirating of DVD, CD, Games etc. (which is available at every 2nd traffic light) so how will they be able to stop people posting what they want on the internet?
  • FanieG said:
    I was wondering, how would the FPB go about policing this? I know nothing about the proposed law, so I'm just wondering if this will actually be something they can manage. It sound to me like the law that people are not allowed to smoke in vehicles that have children on board, but you see this everyday on the streets and highways. Also, how will they be able to prove that something posted on facebook/youtube was actually done in South Africa? The FPB are unable to even effectively stop pirating of DVD, CD, Games etc. (which is available at every 2nd traffic light) so how will they be able to stop people posting what they want on the internet?
    exactly. One of the criticisms of the new regulations is that the FPB will be unable to police this.... It's again a case of putting the cart before the horse - they haven't thought this through properly. I can see Constitutional Court challenges coming, especially from the Media fraternity....

  • I've been following this for a while with a large measure of dread. I think it's worrying on multiple levels and some of the implications are deeply troubling. Past the censorship thing, the financial issue pretty much just comes down to robbing citizens. This would be an unnecessary burden on people creating content professionally, but real issue for me is what it means for people who are not making money out sharing random games, or artworks or songs or anything, simply for the love of it. And if anyone's not willing or able to pay, then that would make them a criminal in the eyes of the law. it's crazy!

    As pointed out, this proposed legislation is unconstitutional and would be practically impossible to effectively implement, but our country has a pretty alarming record of still pushing through unjust, un-workable systems (hi E-Tolls!). As dumb as it seems, I think it's pretty important to take this proposition very seriously.

    I'm keen to go through the past MGSA threads on the subject to see what all has been said, but I think it's also extremely important that our response isn't simply "we don't have 5 million Rand to fight this" and leave it at that. If passed, this bill would be severely detrimental to all of us doing what we do. I think we have to band together in doing as much as we can to fight this thing. How best we can do that is something that needs serious consideration and discussion.

    As a start, I'd like to encourage everyone to sign the petition that Right To Know are currently running.

    Past that, I think we could collectively come up with some great ways to try help ensure this absurd document doesn't become a depressing reality. "Free Internet"-themed game jam anyone?
  • wiledog_x said:
    exactly. One of the criticisms of the new regulations is that the FPB will be unable to police this.... It's again a case of putting the cart before the horse - they haven't thought this through properly. I can see Constitutional Court challenges coming, especially from the Media fraternity....

    Well, it might not be that hard to police it. The law, if it came into effect would prevent anything from being available in South Africa until it has been approved by FPB, so the next step would be to legally force the ISPs to block content en masse, and then unblock according to an FPB whitelist. That doesn't mean that South African's can not upload content to the internet (at least not according to what's written there. This might happen as an unintended side effect of the law, however). It actually means South Africans can not see internet content until it has been approved.

    Thus:
    • Someone living in South Africa could legally create content and upload for consumption by anyone in the world, but it would not be viewable to anyone living in South Africa until it is approved.
    • Someone living outside of South Africa could produce content and upload it for general consumption, but doesn't give a toss about the FPB so the content never becomes viewable to anyone living here.

    Unless your game is exceptionally popular with SA audiences, it probably wouldn't affect your ability to publish and make profitable games. It would however make South Africa in impractical market for your indie games, and if the rules are actually enforced, it would also effectively remove our access to the wide selection of indie-content like youtube channels, indie games, small art projects out there. If this law doesn't terrify you, then you should go and read it properly.



  • There is a lot of hyberbole going on about this, so lets deal with everything point by point.

    1. This isn't legislation, it's policy. The difference is policy is not law per se, it is merely how a government body decides to implement said law.
    2. Technically, the FPB can do all of this stuff already in terms of the current Films and Publications Board Act and it's regulation. This policy is simply showing how they intend to do it. Further the actual pieces of legislation filling in some of the gaps is already in bill format and (to my knowledge) already gone through the public participation process.
    3. Not all content creators need to register. If you would classify as "user-generated" content, then you do not need to apply (however the board does have the ability to retroactively pull your content).
    4. In terms of enforcement, how the FPB is going to do this is to enter into agreements with the major distribution platforms (Google, Apple, Steam etc). They have already signed agreements with most of these.
    5. This policy isn't all bad. The big win for us as game developers is it allows us to self-regulate something I've been pushing for for ages.

    This is what Make Games is doing about it.

    1. We will be drafting written and oral submission to pose to the FPB on how the policy should be amended or improved. Part of this submission is to improve the self regulation sections to make them more workable. The second is to oppose the inclusion of "user-generated" content outright, failing which we are recommending massive changes and remove a lot of the vagueness.

    2. I am meeting with the major suppliers (Google and Humble are on the cards, I'm working on Apple and Steam) to get their input and see what they are doing or how they will implement this.

    What you can do to help.

    All of this costs money, and currently it is something I'm doing from my own pocket, if you really want to help, and you think it is worthwhile we can look at starting a fundraising campaign to hlep.

    Alternatively, sign the petition, but also submit your own comments to the FPB on why you think the policy should be changed or scraped. You have until June to do so.

    I'll post more info on the forums as things progress.


  • Fundraising is a thing I'd be interested in.

    Any guidelines on what our letters to the FPB should contain/touch on? If I get enough guidance, I can take a stab at drafting a rough version that people can use as a base for their own mails.
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