Member games

This may be a stupid question, but is there a single compiled list anywhere of all published games by MGSA members?
I know this would largely be repetition of content in the Projects forum, but it could be structured in a more accessible way than the posts which are more geared towards prototypes and WIP.

I imagine something like this:

User a: Game 1 [Android link][Forum link]
Game 2 [Web link][iOS link][Forum link]

User b + c (Company name): Game 1...


And so on. It would just be a cool way to get to know the histories of everyone, which may or may not be buried or missing from the forum.
Obviously it would need to be editable by everyone (not sure if there is anything set up for this though.

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  • It wouldn't be too much effort to maintain. I imagine that @Fengol could create a static page on the forum, and then people can just directly submit published links to him.
  • The most maintained list is probably the MGSA Steam Curator Page
  • Not sure if any of the existing lists are being maintained anymore: http://makegamessa.com/discussion/94/list-of-game-dev-related-entities-in-sa-now-with-wiki/p1
    This looks about the closest, except I'm not sure it should be in a forum post like that. The Wiki makes perfect sense, but seems to be dead.
  • Karuji said:
    The most maintained list is probably the MGSA Steam Curator Page
    :( Sadly, that won't include anyone whose games are not on Steam.

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  • I wonder if it might make sense to add another category to MGSA - much like the portfolio section - where people/teams etc can create a thread just about their company and add updates there? Then people who are looking for this kind of info and filter it through there and someone like @thefuntastic can stop having every second person ask the same question about Cadence ( :P ) as he'll be able to update the thread with any news

    (I realise I'm using Cadence as an example where Cadence might have it's own thread, but I do expect that various devs are working on simultaneous projects like @Tuism where this might be more applicable)
  • I think it's a good idea to have a centralised thing, however it's maintained. I think the biggest problem is that right now the information to everyone's stuff is somewhere, but not centralised and thus not discoverable.

    And that is a problem that's directly linked to the construction of this site at the moment. We need a page where a list of companies/games links out to a page that can be maintained by individuals. Whether that's a forum category, a wiki, a static page with links, or whatever, we just need that link prominently situated, up top next to the name of the site or the front page (neither of which are options right now, so we need to take that step first).

    I like the idea of a page that members don't have direct access to (whether it's a wiki or a forum category or a static page), but members can be easily added to it, linking out to something that the member must maintain themselves.
  • @dammit I said it was probably the most maintained, not the most complete ;)

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    And in all honesty when it comes to maintaining a kinda on forum portfolio thing. Quite a few of us have our own websites where we have to maintain such info. And honestly if it's between maintaining my own website of stuff on the forums I'm going with my website.

    Like all these ideas are great, but there is a general upkeep to them, and remember when we had a wiki? We almost lost the entire website because it became a spambot breading ground, and the servers weren't happy with that! I'm pretty sure people on the committee know we need to do these things, but there is a lot of things they are busy with. So if you guys really want this then you need to find the man power to help them get it done.

    Otherwise this is kinda going to be another thread with people sitting around saying they want things, and things aren't going to go anywhere.
  • That's kinda what I meant if there's a centralised page that links off to something, there's nothing preventing that something being your own page.

    No I don't want to maintain another thing either.
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    I get what you guys are saying about maintenance, and I think I came off a little incorrectly in implying that the threads would be updated more regularly than a website etc. What I really meant was simply a category tag on the forums where people could post a brief bio and then have a link to their site - and if they wanted to add an update to the forum when necessary.

    I think this might do something for exposure for the various companies - I mean there are a lot of times when I stumble across a local game dev team that I had no idea existed and have no idea what they're working on and threads like this one turn up periodically as people come to this centralised community to find out this sort of information.

    It's kind of like portfolios on the community site. I doubt the artists who post here aren't maintaining their own blogs or websites with their artwork etc, but driving traffic or getting feedback/further interest on the community forums can't be a bad thing, surely?

    I would also add that having a "centralised post/link etc" means that 1 person has to maintain and update the list periodically - something that no one ever does. Whereas, each team having their own thread means its their own responsibility if they want to be listed on MGSA as a functioning company or not :)
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    dammit said:
    I get what you guys are saying about maintenance, and I think I came off a little incorrectly in implying that the threads would be updated more regularly than a website etc. What I really meant was simply a category tag on the forums where people could post a brief bio and then have a link to their site - and if they wanted to add an update to the forum when necessary.
    Didn't we just recently add bio pages to the user profiles? I know they are gone, but from what I would imagine they are for more suitable as a place to link information from? We already have a portfolio tag, so what are you suggesting that isn't me just making a company account for the forums and posting in that tag? And really how is this better then me having PressKit() on my website?
    dammit said:
    I think this might do something for exposure for the various companies - I mean there are a lot of times when I stumble across a local game dev team that I had no idea existed and have no idea what they're working on and threads like this one turn up periodically as people come to this centralised community to find out this sort of information.

    It's kind of like portfolios on the community site. I doubt the artists who post here aren't maintaining their own blogs or websites with their artwork etc, but driving traffic or getting feedback/further interest on the community forums can't be a bad thing, surely?
    Ok so I'm coming at this from the point of view of a developer with a company and releasing a game on steam in the near future. We've had a thread on the forums for the game since March 2013, and sure we've gotten bits and bobs of feedback there.

    So here is my question: how do I benefit from having this thread about projects when my projects themselves already have threads and get feedback themselves. Because well I'm probably the first person on the forums to actually have a kind of aggregated content thread of what I'm doing and up to, which I started in September 2012, and haven't updated since May 2013. And as for my company I have PressKit() on my website.

    Edit Yeah I get there is a discoverability issue, and that people who make these kinds of threads are looking for exposure on their stuff, but that can't become a burden for every dev who comes here.
    dammit said:
    I would also add that having a "centralised post/link etc" means that 1 person has to maintain and update the list periodically - something that no one ever does. Whereas, each team having their own thread means its their own responsibility if they want to be listed on MGSA as a functioning company or not :)
    Actually as an industry association MGSA wants to know about each and every company, what they are up to, and how they are doing. So it's kinda in the association's best interest to make it as easy for the devs. And like I've mentioned a couple of times: your basically just asking us to post our PressKit() on MGSA.
  • I'm really not asking people to post their presskits :P

    *sigh* Nevermind. Was a suggestion.
  • This is what I think is the simplest thing, and would work: A central page that lists companies. Links go off to wherever the company deems it should, companies are responsible for the link.

    That central page will be visible and on top. Someone must maintain it, sure, but its maintenance will be simple, because it really should be just adding a link whenever a new one comes up.

    If they forget to? If maintenance that is really simple isn't being done, it's most likely because the person who does it forgot to. The people whose interest it is to get that maintenance done should then remind the person responsible for it. I.e. Devs ask a moderator/moderators to add their link.

    And so we have it - a visible list of links of our local developers, maintained by a few so it's not gonna get spammed, and kept as relevant as those whom it affects - the devs - keep it.
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  • @Fengol - is this a possibility?
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    I used the "portfolio" section on SAGameDev and kept our presskit there up to date. As a company I found it a rather useful promotional tool (and it took a really minimal amount of work to maintain). Before I was looking for employees I maintained a personal page, because I wanted to work with other people and could see incentive to let them know what I did (so it was worth a little effort).

    I'm not necessarily saying we should build one here though (it seems like a fair bit of work). Though I think a system that is maintained by the people it promotes the easiest system to keep up to date (because the individuals and companies can maintain it themselves, and if it's implemented like SAGameDev it is fairly visible).

    If it can be implemented like a forum thread that just has a special category, that might be a fairly painless solution.

    Though having said that, there are 56 threads posted in the portfolio section at the moment. "Portfolio" doesn't quite cover what I'd like to use this for though...

    In any case I actually rather like the "What are you working on" thread that's happening one or two threads over. It's not a substitute for a directory, but in some ways it's more useful (in that you find out what forum users actually do, rather than having to interpret something like "System's Engineer" written on their CV, or rather than seeing a page for a company who mostly does client work and so doesn't seem to be working on games at all).
  • So the update @Nitrogen and I are working on is a combination of Wordpress and Vanilla. Wordpress provides us with a full Content Management System (CMS) and my idea is to allow members to login and maintain a proper profile page.

    @Nitrogen and I are getting together this weekend to work on it.
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    @Fengol AWESOME. It's definitely something I want to use.
  • As much as I like the idea of that, the thought of yet another thing to maintain... I guess I can just stick a one-off link in it for ourselves and whoever find it difficult to maintain yet one more thing.
  • I think that if you see value in maintaining your company info on MGSA, you'll do it.

    That value isn't financial. It's pretty much the same reason I post art here. I'm proud of my work, so I want to share it. I want local developers and artists to be aware that I exist, that I'm here to help teach and mentor prospective artists if they're committed to it. I want to be a part of this community, rather than some basement recluse. I would imagine that game developers/studios are similar.
  • I think @Elyaradine summed up much better what I had been trying to say :)
  • I think it's pretty clear the value I put in engaging with the community here and being proud of my work and post and share it here, and that engagement is in no way based on any financial gains.

    Whether I maintain a page with the same thing on it here as other places I need to is not in any way indicative of my level of engagement with this community :)
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